When does it become an “accident”?

[Fred]

This is a great discussion, and everyone has made points worth considering. I think we all agree that an "accident" involves an involuntary release of urine, and the amount of wetting makes a difference. I'd say that if it's visible and causes the person to take some action (like changing pants), it's an accident.

[FranticK]

The term involuntary has been used. It is very important.

Pilots of fighter jets are crammed in. There is absolutely no way to move around and piss in a bottle or urinal. Some of those routes are about 7 hours.

Fighter jet pilots have two choices. If they are showers, they can put on essential a sock diaper. Growers as well as the female fighter pilots have to wear protection, a word that means diaper. It is my understanding that fighter jet pilots have to pass the "piss in the diaper" test before they can fly a fighter jet.

All pilots are given some privacy to remove the diaper and dispose of it. All pilots whether they used the diaper or not must shower.

This is so it isn't obvious which pilots pissed themselves while flying and those pilots who didn't.

Even if a pilot pisses 16 oz of pee into his diaper on a route, it is not an accident. The diaper is the regulation toilet for fighter jet pilots when piloting a fighter jet. I remember reading somewhere that these pilots are not suppose to try to hold it. The air force does not want any of their pilots in any kind of desperation. They want all the pilots' attention to be focused on piloting that fighter jet.

Just let it flow when the urge hits!

I wonder how many people in the public eye wear a diaper just in case? Think of how many public figures are past 80?

Well that’s a fascinating anecdote. Am I reading it correctly that those who are not well-endowed, and women, wear diapers, and the “showers” (i.e. well-endowed) wear a sock-type covering? That seems wildly emasculating, talk about adding insult to injury!

[FranticK]

I agree Fred. Maybe some visuals would be a good way to survey the group. Does anyone want to weigh-in on the following images and say what they would and would not consider an accident based on the size of the wet spot…assuming all of these images were preceded by a desperate pee emergency that resulted in involuntary urination?
1: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oP9eKf_T1Jo/ ... 150513.jpg
2: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IuDPDC4H1Zs/ ... 160303.jpg
3: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l-hPc3PUNMY/ ... 160229.jpg
4: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tWEHW7D8t-s/ ... 160217.jpg
5: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VL-P0ekDydA/ ... 160111.jpg
6: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2-xww6S-mDs/ ... 150822.jpg
7: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/--mE77w4nT2A/ ... 150922.jpg
8: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zzbVrIkcHyY/ ... 160117.jpg
9: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c9mGviyB8WI/ ... 151128.jpg
10: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eb15wyjVlMg/ ... 151102.jpg

I have my own opinions but will reserve them until others have had the chance to share

[dhmhtrios]

Great images, FranticK! Out of those I think I would only consider 9 an accident, on the basis of the very sound principle several members have raised about how (re)coverable the situation is. Would love to see the front of number 8's pants though. Number 5 is great because it's a very sizable wet patch but he also appears to be at a pool where it can be easily covered or perhaps explained.

[Fred]

It has been my impression that if a healthy young man experiences an involuntary release of urine, usually his bladder is very full, and stopping the flow for any length of time is difficult. He's likely to soak his crotch before he gets it under control. That's a full-blown accident. If the spot is no larger than a hand, it's likely from that perverse little squirt as we're putting it away. Not really an accident. Maybe an "oopsie"

[ryan1990]

I’d actually consider most of those pictures an accident as it’s be perfectly obvious the lads had started to go in their pants and I reckon most people would agree they should change their undies and trousers.

[googlism2008]

I'd consider all of them as accidents. The wet spots are all very sizable.
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[Sam70]

I'd consider all of them as accidents. The wet spots are all very sizable.
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I understand your reasoning. As far as being a public accident, it would depend where each of the guys were at the time. No matter how small the wet spot, if due to the specific circumstances at that particular point in time, there is a need to change clothes, then it is considered by those involved to be an accident.

If it can be totally out of view, it isn't considered an accident. In the area where I live, these little mishaps are called, "little accidents."

[Lee]

A great topic and some great responses. My own take (unsurprisingly) is that a genuine accident means wetness all down one trouser-leg (at the very least) and some trickling or dripping onto the floor! Anything less is a slight mishap!!